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Intelligence Squared

How to Avert the Climate Catastrophe and a Financial Meltdown, with Eugene Linden

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

News, Arts, News Commentary, Society & Culture

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Author and environmental journalist Eugene Linden's new book, Fire and Flood: A People’s History of Climate Change from 1979 to the Present, lays out how successive US governments managed to delay action on climate change when they should have been raising the alarm. It also looks at why the climate emergency will have a big impact on the global economy and why China and India, which could have taken a lead on renewables, double downed on coal to fuel their industrialisation in the 1990s. Our host for the podcast is the economist and broadcaster Linda Yueh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I mean, Sirling, and today I'm at a McCain Potato Field.

0:04.0

Being chased by a massive wasp!

0:06.0

It's just a lady bird, Ian.

0:08.0

Well, it had a real wasp in her J.

0:10.0

Why are they here?

0:12.0

Well, we plot wildflowers to help encourage wildlife, like birds and insects.

0:16.0

So, we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good.

0:19.0

Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming.

0:22.0

Okay, this time it's definitely a wasp. My life's in danger.

0:25.0

Ian, that's a butterfly.

0:27.0

McCain, let's all jump in.

0:31.0

Oh, is that a pumpkin spice latte?

0:33.0

No, it's the pumpkin spice latte.

0:36.0

Starbucks?

0:37.0

Obviously. You know, I once got so obsessed with pumpkin spice.

0:39.0

I only wore orange for a month.

0:41.0

Ugh, that's nothing. I once got so obsessed I got a pumpkin shaved into my hair.

0:45.0

Oh yeah? Well, last year I cured outside Starbucks for a week.

0:48.0

And my tent was a shape of a pumpkin.

0:50.0

Well, I'm changing my name to pumpkin spicy.

0:54.0

The Starbucks original is back.

0:56.0

Go all out pumpkin spice.

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