The Abundance Network

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🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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What if the key to fixing America’s biggest problems starts locally instead of from the top down? Join Andrew and Misha Chellam as they dive into the Abundance Movement, a bold new effort to reform government from the ground up — starting with housing, public policy, and civic action. Discover how real people are creating real outcomes in places like San Francisco and beyond. Join the Abundance Network Have a question for Andrew? Send them to us as text and voice memos to ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠! ---- Follow Andrew Yang: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Blue Sky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Misha Chellam: Abundance Network | LinkedIn | X ---- Get 50% off Factor at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Factor Meals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get an extra 3 months free at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Express VPN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get 20% off + 2 free pillows at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Helix Sleep⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Use code: helixpartner20 Get $30 off your first two (2) orders at Wonder | Use code: ANDREW104 ---- Subscribe to the Andrew Yang Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This week on the Andrew Yang podcast.
0:04.0	So one of the sort of kind of, I guess, implicit things going on in the abundance movement generally and abundance network specifically is saying like,
0:13.0	actually do stuff that's going to connect to outcomes.
0:18.0	And if you're clear-eyed and realistic about that, it's going to start at the local level.
0:22.1	And it just plugs people back into like an older school version of like being a citizen, like actually
0:29.1	participating, right? Like, you know, we are part of a democracy.
0:44.8	It is my pleasure to welcome to the podcast for the very first time somehow, though we've been friends for a number of years, as you can tell from his t-shirt if you're watching
0:48.5	this on video, the founder of the Abundance Network, Misha Chalem. Welcome, Misha. Hey, Andrew.
0:56.1	Former rock star Misha Chalem. I think that's literal because Misha's a musician.
1:02.9	So Misha, you and I met, gosh, back in 2017 at the Cash Conference. It was a bunch of folks,
1:09.7	Bay Area, trying to see how to popularize
1:13.3	UBI. What do you remember from that event? I remember us pulling off to a side route. It was a good
1:21.7	event. And obviously we met there, our friends, Natalie Foster and Chris Hughes and others Roy Bahad I think a bunch of great people
1:30.0	were there but I do remember you and I pulling aside to like some side room and saying
1:37.7	this talk's all good but what are we going to do about it and you had a crisper answer than I did
1:43.6	you were like I'm running for president.
1:45.5	Yes.
1:46.5	And I said, that sounds really fun.
1:50.2	And let me know how I can participate.
1:54.2	I mean, how I can help.
1:55.8	And yes, I started wrapping the gear.
1:59.3	I think, God, this was like 2018.
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