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The Abortion Debate: Life, Equality, and Choice

Unbelievable?

Premier Unbelievable?

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2023

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Get ready for a riveting episode of Unbelievable? part of our ongoing series Rights of Life and Death. Today in The Abortion Debate: Life, Equality, and Choice, we're diving headfirst into the contentious and thought-provoking topic of abortion. What does it means to stay that life begins? What would it take for the fetus or the child to have a right to life, and for this to outweigh the mother’s right to choice? How do we determine moral value? It's a debate that strikes at the very core of life, equality, and personal choice. Brace yourselves as we navigate the delicate balance between the rights of the child and the rights of the mother. Joining us on this electrifying debate led by moderator Roger Bolton are two extraordinary guests. First, we have Ann Furedi, a leading global pro-choice advocate for almost 40 years, who worked for 17 years as CEO of British Pregnancy Advisory Service. She has written extensively on the ethics of abortion and was awarded an Honorary Doctorate in Social Sciences by the University of Kent. Her groundbreaking book, 'The Moral Case for Abortion: A Defense of Reproductive Choice,' lays out the moral arguments empowering women to make decisions about their pregnancies. But that's not all. Presenting the Christian worldview and opposing abortion on demand is Dr. Calum Miller, an NHS doctor and an unwavering pro-life advocate. With a medical degree from the prestigious University of Oxford and a deep understanding of philosophy and biblical studies, Dr. Miller brings a unique insight into the intricacies of abortion policy in practice. He's here to challenge our assumptions and shed light on the moral value of the unborn. In this high-voltage discussion, we'll explore the burning questions that lie at the heart of the abortion debate. When does life truly begin? Is there ever a justifiable reason to take another life? How do we assign moral value to the unborn? And are there conditions that would tip the scales in favour of granting the fetus a right to life that supersedes a mother's right to choice? Hold on tight as we unpack the very definitions of 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice' and their profound implications for the beginning of life, human equality, and personal autonomy. We won't shy away from the tough questions, including the role of women's choice and the intersection of abortion with women's equality. And for those wondering if men should have a voice in this conversation, we'll address that too. Prepare for an exhilarating, thought-provoking, and mind-expanding discussion. Tune in to this week's episode of Unbelievable as we embark on a quest to unravel the intricate threads of the abortion debate. Don't miss out on this explosive episode. As always we want to hear what you think, perhaps you have a story or a testimony to share? Do get in touch with us via our social channels or email us [email protected] And if you want to get access to bonus content and get early bird access to online events sign up for our newsletter [add link] Ann Furedi's book is The Moral Case for Abortion: A Defence of Reproductive Choice https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moral-Case-Abortion-Defence-Reproductive/dp/3030901882/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1684796806&refinements=p_27%3AAnn+Furedi&s=books&sr=1-1 Calum Miller an ethicist, philosopher and doctor has created a website https://calumsblog.com/ offering a weath of information on all the questions [https://calumsblog.com/abortion-qa/] and topics surrounding the sanctity of life. All his papers are here https://calumsblog.com/academic-papers/ • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unb

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0:00.0

What we, to my mind, we have to be very clear about is how we can accord that life in the

0:12.0

world, perhaps the respect that we would want to give it. But at the same time, we don't

0:21.8

want to take anything away from the moral status of the woman who is carrying because

0:29.3

of whom she is in the nature of her. In the relationship that the embryo has as being

0:38.5

in her world, I think that the woman has the greater claim to moral and indeed just

0:46.6

a core integrity. And that's the thing. It would be wonderful to accord both the same moral

0:56.4

status and moral value. But the point is, is that you simply can't. I believe that all

1:02.1

humans are equal and that is my starting point for this debate and that includes the

1:06.0

human being in the womb. And I think we have to say that all of them are exactly equal

1:09.6

in terms of their value, their rights. Now, sometimes rights can conflict. You know, so

1:15.7

my right to do what I want, my conflict with your right to life if I want to end your

1:20.6

life. Now normally we would judge in favour of you in that situation. We would say, no,

1:26.2

I can't end your life just because I want to. And that's not to say that you're more valuable

1:31.9

or you're more important or that we're unequal. It's to say that we are equal as human beings,

1:37.4

but that the right to life is a more fundamental and basic right than my right to choice.

1:44.4

You are listening to Premier Unbelieveable, the show with the tagline Faith Explored that aims

1:49.9

to get you thinking. I'm Ruth Jackson and today on Unbelieveable, we are focusing on the abortion

1:55.8

debate. Our discussion centers around the rights of the unborn child, the rights of women, pro

2:02.0

life, pro choice when does life begin. Unbelieveable aims to get Christians and non-Christians thinking

2:08.5

about a variety of questions and these complex ethical issues are no exception. Today Roger

2:15.0

Bolton, veteran BBC broadcaster, is joined by writer and reproductive rights of women advocate

2:21.3

and for AD. And is discussing this topic with Dr Callum Miller. Callum is an NHS medical

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