The 6 Types of Working Genius, Part 1—From the Vault
Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast
Andy Stanley
4.6 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 20 April 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
When you identify your areas of working genius, as well as your areas of life-draining weakness, you position yourself to use your natural gifts and accomplish more in every area of life.
In this episode from 2021, Andy sits down with Patrick Lencioni to explore the Working Genius framework and why so many leaders feel stuck in roles that don’t fit. This conversation will help you identify your strengths, avoid burnout, and unlock a more productive and fulfilling way to work.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hey, everybody. Welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast, where we help leaders go further, |
| 0:10.2 | faster. I'm Andy. And this month and next month, my friend Patrick Lynchioni is in the virtual |
| 0:16.2 | studio with me, and we are talking about something that is going to blow your minds. We're talking |
| 0:20.3 | about working geniuses. This is a brand new assessment or evaluation tool that is taking the leadership |
| 0:27.5 | world by storm or soon will be as soon as we finish this podcast. Pat, welcome back. |
| 0:34.2 | It's great to be with you, Andy. Pat's no stranger to our podcast, and he's probably no stranger to most of you. |
| 0:39.3 | My guest is that you've read or listened to at least a couple of Pat's 11 books. |
| 0:44.3 | I've read all 11, which, by the way, this is amazing, and I'm not a jealous author, have |
| 0:49.3 | sold over 6 million copies and have been translated into more than 30 languages. Pat, as most of you know, |
| 0:56.6 | is one of the founders of the table group and is a pioneer in the organizational health movement. |
| 1:01.7 | And many of you aren't old enough to understand that the organizational health movement |
| 1:05.8 | is a relatively new movement within the context of leadership. Because believe it or not, once upon a time, nobody really cared if the organization was healthy as long as it was profitable. |
| 1:15.6 | And a group of wonderful people like Pat came along and said, no, if you want it to be more profitable, you got to make it more healthy. |
| 1:20.6 | So he has been on the front edge of that conversation through his books and his podcast and his conferences and any time somebody can |
| 1:28.3 | get him to come speak. So we're super excited about that. Now, real quick, before we jump into |
| 1:33.7 | working geniuses, so to your point, a few months ago, we're together. And I said, hey, Pat, you know, |
| 1:38.8 | we were, this was probably March. You know, COVID had, you know, people finally knew what to call it, how to spell it. We were starting to wear masks, you know, COVID had, you know, people finally knew what to call it, how to spell it. |
| 1:45.4 | We were starting to wear masks, you know, it so much has changed. |
| 1:49.3 | And I asked you, I said, Pat, when you're talking to leaders right now, what are you saying? |
| 1:54.2 | And you said, you told us what your advice was to leaders at the front end of the pandemic. |
| 1:59.6 | You said, lead with your humanity or front end of the pandemic, you said, lead with your |
| 2:01.1 | humanity or allow your humanity to show. |
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