And doctors saying, well, there's no science behind it.

And you're saying, I'm not going crazy.

I put needles in that person and the headaches have gone.

Or I took gluten out of their diet and they feel better.

I don't why should I be waiting for science to prove something

that I'm seeing all the time.

So if you tuned in recently, you have heard me talking

about how I did a seven day fast.

And you may remember me mentioning somebody who I consulted

with sort of helped set that up.

And his name is Dr. Frank Lippmann.

He is a friend of mine and also a physician

who is trained in both Eastern and Western medicine

with a really unique lens on what it means and takes

to be healthy.

We have recorded a prior podcast.

It goes deep into his fascinating story

growing up in South Africa being trained in medicine,

working in Swetho coming to the Bronx,

the South Bronx in New York City,

at a time where that was not a very safe or fun place to be.

I asked him to come back because he has a new book out now

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