It's helpful for people to know that point of it all is not to become perfected.

I don't think we can.

I don't think, but we can become authentic and real and kind and aware enough of the

wonder of the universe that we lighten up and enjoy.

But we're going to trip and fall no matter what.

And I have let go of that search for perfection, which I certainly want it as a younger person.

From as early back as she can remember, my guest today, Elizabeth Lesser was the rebel,

the activist, the feminist and the family.

Growing up with three other sisters, she was in a household where there were five women

and one very traditional father.

And she could never understand why the women didn't make more decisions and have more power.

And she voiced her opinion from the earliest age.

That letter into a path of seeking and a path of activism, a path of social justice.

She eventually became one of the founders of what has now become a legendary sort of holistic

learning institute, the Omega Institute in Rhinebeck, New York, which covers a sprawling

campus of something like 140 acres serves tens of thousands of people from all over the

world on annual basis.

And she has also over the years become an author and penned a few different memoirs.

Her latest is called Marrow.

And in that she takes us into her relatively recent experience, donating her bone marrow

in an attempt to save her sister.

We dive into her journey, her lens on life, her exploration of seeking the entire story

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