Hello and welcome to the Empowered Couples podcast where here you get modern, non-boring relationship advice for you and your partner to communicate like pros, fight smarter, and stay on the same team.

No matter the challenge that you face, I am one of your hosts, Erin Freeman.

And I'm Jocelyn Freeman, but you all just know us as the Freeman's.

And today we're talking about the follow-up from last Tuesday's episode,

the four keys to unlock emotional intimacy. Yeah, so last week, as Aaron said, we covered the

causes of why couples grow apart emotionally. And I couldn't even believe the engagement.

This obviously struck a chord, the DMs, the emails, the messages of people

reaching out and saying that they have felt that way and they haven't known how to talk about it

or does that mean something's wrong, right? And by the way, if you didn't listen to the episode,

here's a clue. You want to go listen to that one and then come back to this one because it

really is a great two-parter series.

Yeah, it would be episode 164.

And by the way, we are traveling still.

So we're outside of a window here at my parents' house.

So if you hear birds chirping outside, that's what's happening here where we are.

Yes, we're on the road.

And, you know, just as a brief recap from last week, I think part of why this struck

such a chord with both men and women, I mean, we had men really saying like, wow, I have felt

this way is because we addressed that this is not, you know, pointing to something being

wrong in your relationship.

There are four levels to a relationship.

And in any given season, you're

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