The 3 Relationship Habits Every Couple Should Steal

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

Civility Media

Self-improvement, Relationships, Society & Culture, Education

4.9 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Olympic gold medalist Shawn Johnson East and former NFL player Andrew East join me for a conversation about marriage, conflict, ambition, and what it really takes to stay committed when life gets hard. We talk about the communication habits they’ve had to unlearn, the systems and check-ins that help keep their marriage strong, and why most people quit too early when things stop feeling easy. This episode is about learning how to grow through the uncomfortable parts instead of running from them—and why commitment might be the thing that gives life the most meaning. Buy their new book, The Courage to Commit https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/787062/the-courage-to-commit-by-shawn-johnson-and-andrew-east/ Leave me a voicemail to be featured on the show! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/ask-jefferson Join me on Supercast for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and AMAs: https://jefferson.supercast.com/ Order The Next Conversation Workbook: https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/workbook Thank you to our sponsors: Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 20% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Mill. Try risk-free for 90 days and get $75 off at https://www.mill.com/jefferson and use code JEFFERSON at checkout. ZocDoc. https://zocdoc.com/jefferson to find and instantly book a doctor you love today. BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy. Order my book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show! Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter. Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube Follow me on Instagram Follow me on TikTok Follow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Jefferson Fisher podcast.
0:01.7	Today, my guests are Olympic gold medalist,
0:03.8	Sean Johnson and ex NFL pro, Andrew East,
0:07.2	a husband and wife couple that are not only a power couple,
0:11.5	obviously.
0:12.4	They're just some of the nicest, most down-to-earth people
0:14.9	I've ever met, and so it's just a true pleasure.
0:18.0	We get to talk all things, relationships,
0:20.1	and my marriage, their marriage,
0:21.9	and the things that they do to set themselves up for success. If you want to have the courage
0:26.3	to commit, which is the name of their latest book, if you want to have strategies for building
0:31.6	a better life and a better marriage, well, then some things you need to have in place. We talk
0:35.3	all about the structure. How do you create cadences to check in with each other? How do you set goals, all of that and more? I hope you enjoy it. What I have enjoyed a lot since you're moving up here and then hearing about y'all is that you're just good people. Like you're just all to the earth, good people.
0:55.0	So I'm going to put that out there.
0:56.5	It's all a lie.
0:57.4	Yeah, it's all a lie.
0:58.7	Even though I know you all are human and you're married
1:04.6	and know that you have just as much problems as anybody else.
1:08.5	Like we're all figuring it out.
1:10.4	It's like when somebody says, like, well, you just know all the communication stuff. And I'm like, if you only, if you only knew. I can't wait. Like for Sierra sometimes, if she was here, she'd be like, hey, you remember that time? Are you been in that argument? And then she's like, okay, communication guy.
1:29.9	So it can come back about you.
1:36.8	But what I'm curious about, so you have Olympian, a pro-N-FEL, pro-athlete.
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