The $20 Billion Deal To Get Indonesia Off Coal

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🗓️ 7 March 2023

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Indonesia is the world's largest exporter of coal for electricity. And it's also an emerging economy trying to address climate change. The country recently signed a highly publicized, $20 billion international deal to transition away from coal and toward renewable energy. The hope is the deal could be a model for other countries. But Indonesian energy experts and solar executives worry much of this deal may be "omong kosong" — empty talk. Today, NPR climate solutions reporter Julia Simon breaks down the realities and limitations of Indonesia's renewable aspirations.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.
0:05.0	Hey there Shortwaveers, Aaron Scott here and today we have a very special guest for you.
0:12.4	One Julia Simon, NPR's new climate solutions reporter.
0:16.5	Welcome to Shortwave, Julia.
0:17.5	Thanks for having me, Aaron.
0:19.5	I hear you are bringing us a story about climate from Indonesia.
0:24.6	That is right and I'm going to start by showing you this video.
0:28.5	Love us, Tim Show and Tell.
0:30.5	You're seeing all these palm trees.
0:32.7	This is a huge, more than 40,000 acre park.
0:36.3	Okay, massive.
0:37.7	You've got this motorcade running through and that's the Indonesian president, Jokol Widodo.
0:43.8	Sering Sasa Peikan.
0:45.8	Yang Namanya.
0:47.3	And what this is?
0:48.4	This is a green industrial park.
0:50.9	The idea is that this park will make all this stuff for the green transition,
0:55.1	like electric vehicle batteries.
0:57.6	And the ideas it will all run on renewable energy, like hydro power and solar.
1:04.3	Sounds great.
1:05.6	I feel like I'm waiting for a butt though.
1:08.0	Well, here is Rakhmat Kainoudin.
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