Hello and welcome back to the show to Chasing Excellence.

Hi, Patrick, here with Ben.

How are you, my friend?

That's been great.

Yeah, thanks, Patrick.

I'm excited to have this conversation.

You have been, I guess, two things.

One, we introduced this idea of drift.

And I think, correct me if I'm wrong,

I think the word first came up when we were talking to Dr. Rich in the episode, I think we called it, the default is decline. And I know, I think you guys had been talking about this idea of drift, but that was the first time it was like put into the waters here at the show. And then I know recently you've been talking a lot about drift on like on social and stuff like that. So I know you've been thinking about drift. And I thought,

let's actually have a conversation about drift specifically. Let's define it. Let's talk about

what it is, where it is and what we can do about drift. And so I think I just want to start with maybe

your definition, how you've been thinking about drift, what it looks like, what it feels like, how maybe we can all start to identify it in our own lives. And then I'd ask you to put together a list of like, here are the things that are creating drift. So we're going to go through a list of 10 things that you sent me and then talk about, we're going to steal a word from our friend Chris Irwin. We're going to talk about the countermeasures of those causes of drift. So but first, again, let's just define drift. Like, what is it? What are we talking about? Why is it important? How have you been thinking about it? So how it like popped up onto my radar and how I started like thinking about it and leaning

farther into it was I been really trying to explore and it started with comp train. And as we're

trying to redefine the new present and future of what we're trying to do, moving from, you know,

trying to get athletes to pony me at the CrossFit games to this forever athlete mentality. And I was really trying to like, because I always think

this works really well for entrepreneurs is to truly personalize it. I'm like, what is

the problem I'm trying to solve for myself? What is my fear? What is my thing that Comptrain does for me? And I wrestled with that for a long, a very long time. And I finally got to this idea. It's like, it's not that I need better programming. It's not that I want to be able to even PR my lifts. It's not that I,

so what is this thing that is a true, which would be the obvious things that Comptrain is doing

for people, right, right, right. But I like that, going even deeper than that. So what is like the true

pain point that I have? And what I, after lots of wrestling, started to formulate

was this idea that I'm terrified of almost unknowingly losing my edge, losing my fitness,

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