Hey friends, welcome to the Rhythms for Life podcast where each week we talk about resilient rhythms

that help you take charge of your mental, spiritual, physical, and relational health.

This season's conversations come from our best-selling book, The Fight for Us,

overcome what divides to build a marriage that thrives.

So grab your copy, invite your friends, and let's build healthy relationships together.

Welcome back. I'm Rebecca.

And I'm Gabe. And we're continuing our season with the fight for us because we want everybody that's in a relationship, especially a marriage, to understand

these dynamics and how critical they are to have relational health.

We're so excited about the fight for us coming out in two weeks.

I know.

It's crazy.

This book has been a couple of years of work and telling our story, but really in an effort

to invite so many other couples into a conversation that we feel like just isn't

happening a lot, especially in public, where we really expose the fact that, hey, we all struggle in

marriage. And so it's going to take a fight, a commitment to say we want to dig in more. We want to

expose some of these areas that we have weaknesses in so that we can strengthen them.

And sometimes when we're in these conflict patterns, we look at each other and just say,

it's your fault, it's your fault. It's not my fault. And the whole point of today's episode

is all about the fact that your spouse is not the enemy, right? We really want to point fingers

at one another. And the enemy loves that. Like, he wants us to keep in

this cycle of dysfunction. And so the goal here is that we unite. And so I'm excited about

this conversation today because Gabe and I used to get in this loop a lot. And if we're not

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