Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Radical Canter Podcast. I'm Kim Scott, co-founder of Radical Cander,

an author of Radical Cander and Just Work. Thank justice not working all the time.

Good clarification. I am Amy Sandler, your host for the Radical Candor podcast.

And today we're really excited.

We are welcoming Muriel Wilkins to our first radically candid conversation of 2023.

So welcome Muriel.

We are so excited to welcome you and have you bring your voice into our podcast.

For those of you who don't know, Muriel Wilkins,

you are a C-suite advisor and executive coach with a nearly 20-year track record of helping

senior leaders and teams take their effectiveness to the next level. She's the host of

the Harvard Business Review podcast, Coaching Real Leaders, and the co-author of Own the Room,

Discover Your Signature Voice to Master Your Leadership Presence.

Muriel, when did that book Own the Room come out?

Ten years ago, which is hard to believe.

That is amazing.

Well, I'm excited to check that out.

I think that's more important than ever.

As we get started, there are a couple of areas of commonality between us.

First of all, I will say, and Jason Rosef is not on our podcast.

So just to make it clear that being on this podcast,

attendance at Harvard Business School is not a requirement. But it turns out that we were all

at Harvard Business School at the same time in the mid-90s. Kim and I did not know each other.

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