Hello and welcome to an emergency trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernan. I don't really understand

what O the Humanity meant when that person said it when he saw the Hindenburg Blimp explode,

but O the Humanity, the inhumanity. As we all know now, white nationalist terrorists

who answered to Donald Trump in Red Hat, some carrying Confederate and Trump flags, and

at least one massive noose, stormed the US Capitol today, murdered a woman, broke windows,

fired guns, issued threats, overwhelmed the police and desecrated the very seat of our government,

in the name of giving Trump a thousand year right. If there were ever any question that Trump

supporters just wanted an honest examination of the election results of November, as Senator

Ted Cruz and others had claimed we now know this is bullshit. They wanted insurrection and to

seize the Capitol and plant a terrorist flag. Again, that flag is a Confederate flag, and even a noose

was installed outside the Capitol. There's no question this is a white supremacist act by a terrorist

militia. Like so many Americans, I felt my brain shatter watching the videos and my throat

ran dry, so I should probably shut up and just listen. I could think of no better person to listen

to than Professor Joanne Freeman. A historian at Yale and the author of The Field of Blood,

Violence in Congress and the Road to Civil War, welcome to Trumpcast, Professor Freeman.

Thanks for having me. Thanks very much for being here on a day that right in front of us,

something is happening that almost explodes the American nervous system. I don't know what the

exact word for it is, but maybe you can put it into context with other moments of American political

violence for us. Sure. Well, certainly I've studied a lot of moments, actually not just of

political violence, but violence in Congress. The first half of the 19th century, there was a good

amount of physical violence in Congress. But an interesting thing about that violence versus what

we see going on today is a lot of that violence was it was physical, it was real, but it was for

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