Thanksgiving Crossover: Brown Ambition x Nerdwallet's SmartMoney Podcast

Brown Ambition

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Careers, Education, Self-improvement, Investing, Business

4.9 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Happy Thanksgiving week, beloved BA Fam! As a special treat, I wanted to share a crossover episode with Nerdwallet's SmartMoney Podcast, featuring their incredible hosts Sean Piles and Elizabeth Ayoola.

We had SUCH a good conversation about career strategies, salary negotiations, and how to navigate this wild job market we’re in right now.

We talked about everything—from how I 10x’d my salary by quitting my way to the top, to why you need to stop being loyal to companies that won’t pay you what you’re worth. We even got into the power of storytelling in your career, building community, and why you should always be taking those recruiter calls even when you’re not looking.

I hope you enjoy this episode and that wherever you find yourself this holiday week, you're surrounded by loved ones and make time to take care of yourselves as well.

Much love,

Mandi & Team BA

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0:00.0	Hey, BA fam. Welcome back to Brown Ambition. It's your girl, Mandy Money. And today I've got something a little different, a little special for y'all. It's actually an episode of the Smart Money podcast, which is by my friends over at NerdWallet. You know, they are one of the biggest brands in financial education. And I had the pleasure of hopping on the mic with their host, Sean Piles and Elizabeth
0:21.7	Ayula earlier this year. We had such a good conversation. We got to talk about the origin
0:26.8	of Brown ambition. We got to talk about how I 10xed my salary by quitting my way rich, the power
0:34.7	of storytelling and your career, just all of my favorite topics. The conversation is
0:39.4	packed with actionable advice that I know will help you level up your career, which is what I am
0:44.6	all about, especially if y'all have been feeling stuck, underpaid, undervalued, all the things.
0:51.0	Honestly, it was also a good opportunity to share the origin story of Brown Ambition.
0:55.4	And I talk about how centering voices of people of color and personal finance conversations
1:00.3	matter so much to me. And I wanted to share this full interview with y'all because y'all are
1:05.5	BA fam. You're the reason I do this work. And I think you're going to get a lot out of this conversation.
1:11.2	So without further ado, let's jump into my interview with NerdWallet's Smart Money podcast.
1:16.5	Enjoy. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
1:26.1	Sean, if you could pay yourself any amount of money based on what you think you're worth, how much would it be?
1:32.2	This is probably not the answer you want, but the limit does not exist.
1:35.7	I tend to think that people are worth more than a dollar amount can capture.
1:39.6	So I would say an infinite amount of money, Elizabeth.
1:42.2	Well, you could save that for yourself because I would like to be paid $50,000 a month.
1:47.2	Just kidding, that's fair.
1:48.3	That's fair.
1:49.8	All right.
1:50.5	So today we're discussing compensation negotiations and also career strategies for an uncertain market.
2:07.1	Welcome to NerdWallet's Smart Money podcast, where you send us your money questions and we answer them with the help of our genius nerds. I'm Sean Piles. And I'm Elizabeth Ayola. This episode,
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