TGS Live: When Self-Censorship Is a Good Thing
The Glenn Show
Glenn Loury
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🗓️ 16 June 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Last week, I did my second ever livestream, this time with my editor here at the Substack, Mark Sussman. We covered a lot of ground: self-censorship in both intimate and public settings, the golden age of MIT, the death of the influential economist Stanley Fischer, political correctness then and now, the use of the term “blood libel,” immigration, labor disputes and anti-trust in the tech industry, and class-based affirmative action.
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| 0:00.0 | right, well, let's just go for it. Why not? Take a big sip of that vodka and coconut water. |
| 0:06.3 | I would be curious to hear Glenn's thoughts on the recent riots around L.A. and on immigration |
| 0:12.6 | enforcement under the Trump administration thus far in 2025. That is from, oops, sorry, envy offered that question. Okay. Well, these are, this is news breaking, |
| 0:28.8 | even as we speak, so I haven't had a lot of time they reflect on it. I took the position early |
| 0:34.1 | on that Trump was basically right in criticizing Biden over the lack of control over |
| 0:39.8 | who was coming into the country across the southern border. That a country has, the United |
| 0:46.4 | States in particular, has the right to decide who enters its polity and its population. And that the claims that the motivation of people who wanted to have more |
| 1:00.4 | control over entry were racist were wrong. |
| 1:05.3 | That was a kind of false argument. |
| 1:09.6 | I mean, it wasn't about, the motivation, |
| 1:11.1 | wasn't about the race of the people. |
| 1:12.5 | It was about the fact that you don't know who they are. |
| 1:15.9 | And I, as an economist, had some familiarity with the literature |
| 1:21.5 | about the second knock-on effects of low-skilled immigrant entry into the population. |
| 1:30.3 | And notwithstanding the fact that there are some studies that are on both sides of the issue, |
| 1:35.3 | my general view was that it makes it harder to react effectively to the needs of |
| 1:43.2 | disadvantaged incumbent citizen population to have greater |
| 1:48.4 | competition at the bottom of the labor market coming in from abroad. |
| 1:52.1 | And it makes it easier for employers and others who benefit from the presence of low-skilled |
| 2:00.3 | labor to have their way at the top or the |
| 2:03.9 | upper middle end of the income distribution in terms of getting services and getting Dossala |
| 2:08.9 | employees relative to the domestic population or the disadvantage. So for those reasons, I was |
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