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Hey, the virtue. There's definitely a difference between cheap and frugal. On Friday, we tried

to help a virtue listener, Erica out with her new boyfriend. She said it's notoriously

cheap, but they were going out with some friends and she was asking them to put it on pause

for one night. But I'm super curious before we even get into the follow up. What are

the really great examples of your parents being super, super cheap? Like I knew one family

that the dad used to put like water in the ketchup. Oh, I do that with my shampoo, but

not with the ketchup. With the ketchup to extend the ketchup because they were just so

cheap and they weren't like a poor family, but he was just cheap. There are some people

that do this really, really well. One eight five five virtue. Okay. In this case, it might

have been frugal. Yeah. So he is extremely frugal. We might get to the point of calling him

cheap depending on how this turned out. They've only been dating a couple of months and she

hit us up because she wanted to convince him to pick up the tab for this dinner that he

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