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Terrorism in the Cold War (205)

Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times

Ian Sanders

History, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.8865 Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

I talk with the writers and editors of Terrorism in the Cold War a new two volume book that uses a wide range of case studies including Polish Military Intelligence and Its Secret Relationship with the Abu Nidal Organization and Gladio – Myth and Reality: The Origins and Function of Stay Behind in the Case of Post-war Austria.  The book sheds new light on the relations between state and terrorist actors, allowing for a fresh and much more insightful assessment of the contacts, dealings, agreements and collusion with terrorist organizations undertaken by state actors on both sides of the Iron Curtain. You will learn that these state-terrorism relationships were not only much more ambiguous than much of the older literature had suggested but are, in fact, crucial for the understanding of global political history in the Cold War era. If you are enjoying the podcast I could use some support to enable me to continue recording these incredible stories. If you become a monthly supporter via Patreon, you will get the sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If you can’t wait for next week’s episode do visit our Facebook discussion group where guests and listeners continue the Cold War Conversation. Just search Cold War Conversations in Facebook. There's more in the episode notes here coldwarconversations.com/episode205/ I am delighted to welcome Thomas Riegler, Przemyslaw Gasztold and Adrian Hänni to our Cold War conversation… Thank you very much for listening. It is really appreciated. Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations 0:00 Introduction 0:10 Examination of state terrorism relationships during the Cold War era 4:15 Debunking myths around Cold War terrorism 10:23 Discussion on Eastern Bloc nations and their dealings with terrorist organizations 17:16 Examination of the Italian Red Brigades' relationship with the Soviet Bloc 23:23 Introduction to the case studies: Abu Nidal Organization and its leader 33:51 Research into Polish military intelligence's relationship with the Abu Nidal Organization 41:07 Introduction to Thomas Riegler's chapter: Gladio Myth and Reality 53:46 The United Kingdom's development of a stay-behind network during the Cold War 55:05 Acknowledgements and closing remarks Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Cold War Conversations, the home of real stories of the Cold War.

0:05.7

There were regular meetings between Red Army faction members and Stasi officials

0:10.0

where they exchanged actual intelligence information.

0:13.3

And the Stasi was very interesting in that because the Red Army faction provided them with

0:16.9

information on U.S. Army bases in West Germany.

0:22.8

This is Cold War Conversations.

0:30.6

If you're new here, you've come to the right place to listen to first-hand Cold War history accounts.

0:37.4

Do make sure you follow us in your

0:39.2

podcast app so that you don't miss out on future episodes. I talk with the editors of terrorism

0:46.2

in the Cold War, a new two-volume book that uses a wide range of case studies, including

0:52.6

Polish military intelligence and its secret relationship

0:55.8

with the Abu Nidal organization and gladio myth and reality the origin and function of stay

1:03.4

behind in the case of post-war austria the book sheds new light on the relations between state

1:09.6

and terrorist actors allowing for a fresh

1:12.1

and much more insightful assessment of the contacts, dealings, agreements and collusion with

1:18.8

terrorist organisations undertaken by state actors on both sides of the iron curtain.

1:25.6

You will hear that the state terrorism relationships were not only much more

1:29.7

ambiguous than much of the older literature has suggested, but are in fact crucial for

1:35.2

the understanding of the global political history of the Cold War era.

1:40.3

If you're enjoying the podcast, I could use some support to enable me to continue recording these incredible stories.

1:48.3

If you become a monthly supporter via Patreon, you will get the sought after Cold War Conversations drinks coaster as a thank you and bask in the warm glow of knowing that you are helping to preserve Cold War history.

2:02.6

Still not sure? He's one of our financial supporters.

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