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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Terror Management Theory: How Existential Dread Has Shaped the World with Sheldon Solomon

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Earth Sciences, Science, Natural Sciences

4.8549 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 107 minutes

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Summary

Many of us wrestle with the unsettling truth that everyone – including ourselves and those we love – will one day die. Though this awareness is uncomfortable, research suggests that the human capacity to contemplate death is a byproduct of consciousness itself. In fact, our efforts to cope with mortality are at the core of culture, religion, the desire for wealth, and even many of today's societal crises. How might a deeper understanding of our implicit reactions to mortality help us turn towards responses that are more supportive of our species and planet? 

In this episode, Nate is joined by Sheldon Solomon, a psychologist and co-developer of Terror Management Theory, which posits that while all living beings strive to survive, humans are unique in knowing that death is unavoidable. Solomon explores some of our instinctual coping mechanisms, including clinging to existing cultural worldviews and activities that bolster our self-esteem, even when they may have negative consequences for those around us. He also explains how these defensive mechanisms manifest in modern society, influencing politics, consumerism, and religious beliefs. 

Why does our fear of death drive materialism and the endless hunger for "more"? How do reminders of death impact our attitudes toward people with different political or religious beliefs? And lastly, could practices rooted in mindfulness, gratitude, and awe help us to more skillfully relate to death anxiety by strengthening our relationships, giving to our community, and reveling in the expansive magnificence of the universe in which we get to inhabit? 

(Conversation recorded on September 25th, 2025)

 

About Sheldon Solomon:

Sheldon Solomon is Professor of Psychology at Skidmore College. His research on the behavioral effects of the unique human awareness of death have been supported by the National Science Foundation and the Ernest Becker Foundation, and were featured in the award winning documentary film Flight from Death: The Quest for Immortality. 

Sheldon is the co-author of the book In the Wake of 9/11: The Psychology of Terror and The Worm at the Core: On the Role of Death in Life. Additionally, he is an American Psychological Society Fellow, as well as a recipient of an American Psychological Association Presidential Citation (2007) and a Lifetime Career Award by the International Society for Self and Identity (2009).

 

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0:00.0

We are marinating in death anxiety.

0:03.7

If we're overwhelmed by reminders of death,

0:06.8

if our cultural worldview is no longer convincing,

0:11.1

if we're lacking in self-esteem,

0:13.4

that instigates a host of defensive reactions

0:17.9

to restore psychological equanimity.

0:20.6

What we would today refer to as mindfulness, awe, gratitude, humility, those defenses

0:28.4

dissolve as a result of these kinds of interventions.

0:36.9

You're listening to the Great Simplification.

0:40.3

I'm Nate Hagen's.

0:41.5

On this show, we describe how energy, the economy, the environment, and human behavior all

0:46.9

fit together and what it might mean for our future.

0:50.6

By sharing insights from global thinkers, we hope to inform and inspire more humans to play

0:56.3

emergent roles in the coming great simplification.

1:04.1

Today, I'm pleased to be joined by social psychologist Sheldon Solomon to discuss terror management theory, which he co-developed

1:13.9

alongside Jeff Greenberg and Tom Pizzinski. Sheldon is a professor of psychology at Skidmore

1:20.0

College, where he studies how the uniquely human awareness of death affects our behavior

1:26.2

at both the individual and collective levels.

1:29.6

Sheldon is also the co-author of, in the wake of 9-11, the psychology of terror, as well as

1:36.2

the worm at the core on the role of death in life. In this long and oft-requested episode, Sheldon and I dive deep into his decades-long work,

1:48.3

establishing how human awareness and the associated fear of death affects everything we do,

1:57.1

from our daily behaviors, from our desire for money, to our religious beliefs and our

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