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Tents for asylum seekers - why won't Labour rule it out?

The News Agents

Global

Daily News, News, Government, Politics

4.24.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In the latest round of “did I hear that correctly?“, the Prime Minister's spokesman has refused to rule out housing asylum seekers in tents. It’s a policy that's been touted by Reform's new mayor for Greater Lincolnshire, and, you'd think, should be an easy one for Labour to knock down. The fact they can’t - or won’t - speaks to a larger issue about how Labour deals with the Reform party in Britain and how progressive parties more generally should approach populist ideas. Should mainstream parties shun them or embrace them?

Later, Netanyahu’s latest plan for political survival is to occupy and annexe Gaza in its entirety - right as food supplies in the Gaza strip are so low that civillians are just days away from starvation. Why isn’t there enough political momentum at home to stop him? We speak to Dahlia Scheindlin, an expert in Israeli public opinion.

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0:00.0

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0:09.3

This is a global player original podcast.

0:12.7

Populists don't invent grievances. They may exploit them, but the grievances are usually real.

0:18.2

And therefore, you're going to deal with it, whether it's stagnant wages or issues to do with anxiety over cultural change and so for the

0:25.1

progressive side of politics you know how did we win well first of all we were

0:30.2

always there in what I will call the common-sense position on things like

0:34.3

culture but secondly we had a a strong desire to make change that was radical

0:42.7

but also sensible. This is Tony Blair speaking in California, not directly about the Labour

0:49.1

Government of Kirstana, but about progressive governments everywhere in the world.

1:00.0

And the problem they have in finding a message that can enthuse voters today when there seems to be so much anger and cynicism about politics in general.

1:05.4

He might not have been speaking to Kirstama, but he was certainly speaking about Kirstama. Right now, Labour is having

1:13.6

what feels like a wobble. They don't know whether to shun reform, to embrace reform, on which

1:20.2

policies they might have to change to do so. Welcome to the newsagents.

1:31.4

The Newsagents. It's John's john it's emily it's lewis and after the kind of shalacking i think is the obama phrase that labor got at the local council

1:38.5

elections the questions have followed what do we do now and over the course of the weekend, and today in The Guardian, the question was raised about whether it is time to reverse course on the winter fuel allowance cut, which has proved so unpopular up and down the country, and has led to a lot of very prominent labour figures saying, this is the wrong

2:02.2

policy we need to change course. Yeah, and today we've had confirmation. Kirstama

2:08.8

spokesman ruling out any U-turn on the government's deeply unpopular winter fuel payment cuts

2:14.8

despite that widespread anger. And I guess it speaks to a bigger question,

2:22.1

doesn't it, which is whether the government has to hear this anger and say, trust us, we've got it,

2:30.0

we know what we're doing, we're going to follow through on this, or whether they hear this anger and say,

2:36.2

okay, we're listening, what can we do to reverse it? And I think they're actually caught between

2:42.1

both those positions right now. Over the weekend, you know, I was speaking to people as I'm sure

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