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Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

Tell Me I'm Not Alone

Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

Esther Perel Global Media

Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement

4.716.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2017

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

[Contains mature themes] A young family, a ten-year age difference, and a wife who found independence through an extra-marital relationship. They’ve decided to forgive and rebuild, but the pain of the betrayal remains. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

What you're about to hear is an unscripted one-time couples counseling session.

0:05.0

It contains mature themes and listener discretion is advised.

0:09.0

For the purposes of maintaining confidentiality, names and some identifiable characteristics have been removed.

0:16.0

But their voices and their stories are real.

0:23.0

In the aftermath of an affair, people can get stuck and it's been a year.

0:29.0

And he is still bewildered and confused and upset, as if it was just yesterday.

0:36.0

In my estimation, we had a very happy marriage, we had good communication, we had a good sex life.

0:43.0

So I was really blown away by this.

0:46.0

On one hand, I feel like I really understand why she did what she did.

0:52.0

On the other hand, there's a part of me that's still saying, how could you have done this to me?

0:58.0

He has felt in the grip of these surges of anger and he doesn't really understand them.

1:04.0

And he feels worse each time because they reinforce his fundamental belief about life,

1:13.0

which is that in the end, no matter what, you're always alone.

1:19.0

And he met this woman 10 years ago who gave him a glimpse and hope

1:25.0

that even though that was what he thought maybe didn't have to be this way.

1:30.0

So we met in July of 2006 in Spain.

1:36.0

So I was living in Spain, he was living in San Francisco, California and Richard Mew.

1:43.0

And then I moved to the US in December of 2006.

1:48.0

And he counted on her and she left him bereft.

1:53.0

I first discovered, of course, I discovered that with emails.

1:56.0

And then of course I read a whole bunch of emails.

2:00.0

And it's a terrible feeling to be angry and the feelings of hatred to somebody who you love and who you've created a family.

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