Technology won. Big tech won. So now what? That's one of the questions a New

York Times writer recently posed heading into a new year full of stories about

Apple, Google, Facebook, and the rest of the tech giants that control our

information world. There's so much to learn right now about the state of Big

Tech. There's so much to ask. So that's what we're gonna start here on this

week's Reliable Sources podcast. Let's cue the music. I'm Brian Stelter and

this weekly podcast is our chance to go in depth with media leaders and

newsmakers. Talking about how the media world really works. And of course the

media world is so defined controlled by the platforms that it relies upon. The

Google search engines, the Facebook algorithms, and all the rest. That's why I

find myself reading actually devouring every newsletter by New York Times

writer Shira Overtay. Her on-tech newsletter for the times has been on point

documenting how Big Tech keeps getting bigger and how it's changing all of our

lives. I've been watching lately the stock market volatility, the questions

about Big Tech regulation and of course another earning season. So I thought

this was a perfect time to bring Shira on to talk through it all and make us

all a little bit smarter. Shira Overtay, welcome to the podcast. Thank you, Brian.

That was very flattering. It happens to be true. I was quoting in the intro one

of your newsletters from December. The headline was tech one. So now what? You were

looking two years into the pandemic. How these tech giants only became bigger and

bigger and more pervasive and powerful during COVID-19. And you've helped to

put the numbers into perspective. Talk to us about the trillion dollar amounts

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