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Reliable Sources

'High Conflict' author dissects the problem with 'conflict entrepreneurs'

Reliable Sources

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3.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Amanda Ripley joins Brian Stelter with secrets to de-escalating disputes. Plus, Oliver Darcy and Philip Bump discuss anonymous sourcing in light of the Tom Brady retirement stories; Shelby Talcott talks about Biden White House coverage; Kat Rosenfield likens Joe Rogan to "a weed;" Nic Robertson reports on Russian TV's interest in Tucker Carlson; and "Jeopardy!" victor Amy Schneider reflects on her winning streak.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Brian Salter live in New York, and this is Reliable Sources, where we examine

0:06.7

the story behind the story and try to figure out what is reliable.

0:10.8

That's the question about these Tom Brady retirement reports this weekend.

0:15.2

We're going to break down the anonymous sourcing play, plus we'll head to Moscow to find

0:19.0

out why Tucker Carlson is a nightly fixture on Russian State TV.

0:24.0

And later, the amazing Amy Schneider, one of Jeffery's all-time champions, she's here,

0:29.0

talking about her buzzer strategy, her troll handling, and her pick for permanent hosts.

0:34.9

But first, is there a way out?

0:37.7

Is there a way out of the cataclysmic conflicts that seem to consume everything?

0:43.4

Divisions over COVID, vaccines, teaching, policing, feel like they're making the United States

0:48.0

less and less so.

0:49.7

And media outlets are very much a part of this, entangled in conflict, us versus them,

0:54.8

the first is right, the middle versus extremes, heroes versus villains, alt-right versus

0:59.0

mainstream, and so on and so on.

1:01.9

Healthy conflict can be good, but we are in a state of high conflict, defined in a recent

1:07.5

book as a good versus evil kind of feud.

1:11.6

When people lose their minds in ideological disputes, political feuds or gang vendettas,

1:17.5

high conflict is a force that causes people to lie awake at night and fear for the future.

1:24.2

And I can see this kind of conflict right now with a lumensipreme court confirmation battle.

1:29.5

I guess I could call it a confirmation process, maybe I should, but I default to the word

1:33.2

battle because that's the way it's portrayed in the press.

1:35.9

And look, maybe it won't really be a battle.

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