Hey there. We're kicking off a great show. This is Audrey Russo.

And Jonathan Kirchning hanging out here.

Yeah, we're at TechVib Radio. And I just really want to jump in because we have...

You're immediately putting it into high gear. I like that. Yes. I want to put it in high gear because there's so much I want to pack in on this conversation here. And I'm not sure I'm going to get it all. And we have Mike Skirpin.

And he is co-founder of probable models, which is an ethical software company, director of

community forge, community center Wilkinsburg, and special faculty Reggie Mellon University in computing ethics.

I think you're not doing enough. Yeah, he's not doing enough. He's hardly doing enough.

This guy is like putting magic in our city. I know. He really is. And I'm not, I don't want to blow up his ego.

You have her fired up, man. This is pretty cool. I like this.

Well, he, you know, he's just, listen, Project Amelia, it's the next level of immersive

theater experience, okay?

Nothing like this really exists.

And I want to pass the baton to mic.

Yeah, when I saw the concept for this, I was like, wow, this is something I've never

heard of. I want to pass the baton to this historical moment that we will experience.

Okay.

Okay.

And so Mike, talk about it.

And I don't know where you want to start or how you want to shape it, but I trust you to take us down the journey of a good story.

Yeah.

So I was, this all started.

This project actually started while I was doing my PhD in Colorado at University of Colorado, Boulder, in computer science, and I was focused on AI and deep learning. And at the time, I was working in New York for a summer at a company doing an internship where we were building actual deep

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