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And it's really striking that that's essentially they're just saying this is now built

into what it is to have a job.

Part of having a job now is the chance that maybe you're going to

disable or kill someone who lives with you. Like in a way, the political effect of no more

pandemic and forever more pandemic become identical. It's like they've said the scale of social

murder is just now so large that it just has to be allowed to happen. Welcome to the death panel.

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So today I'm here with my co-host, Artie Verkant.

Hello.

And the two of us are joined by returning guest and friend of the panel, Nate Holdren.

Nate is a legal historian of capitalism and is a professor at Drake University.

He is the author of the book, Injury, Impoverished, Workplace Accidents, Capitalism, and Law

in the Progressive Era,

which we've discussed previously on the show.

It's a really great book and a great episode about the book.

It was actually, I think, the first time we had you on Nate back in December of 2021.

And you may remember Nate from one of our most popular episodes, which is the conversation

that we had with Nate about social murder and COVID.

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