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Teaser - "The People's Hospital" w/ Lily Sánchez (05/29/23)

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🗓️ 30 May 2023

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/83728759 Bea speaks with Lily Sánchez about Ricardo Nuila's popular new book "The People's Hospital," which purports to paint a compassionate picture of how to fix the US healthcare system, while ignoring—and reinforcing—the structural issues that make the system so bad in the first place. Get Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Runtime 1:18:19, 29 May 2023 🧬

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0:00.0

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0:06.4

He is completely bought into the idea that the system as it exists is the only way it's ever going to be.

0:12.6

And when we allow those people to set the terms for the conversation for what ethical, balanced care, whatever the fuck. I mean mean what does that even mean balance and

0:25.1

health care like I'm sorry yeah no you're right it is it's complete bullshit it's

0:32.0

it's it's similar to me to the idea that like well the solution lies somewhere in the

0:36.1

middle like we can't have the extremes of the right or left the solution lies somewhere in the middle. Like, we can't have the extremes of the right or left.

0:38.3

The solution lies somewhere in the middle.

0:40.3

Most people are very sensible.

0:42.3

We just have to find the middle ground.

0:44.3

And that's fucking nonsense.

0:46.3

Mm-hmm.

0:47.3

And when it comes to health provisioning in the United States,

0:50.3

balance is not the issue that we're trying to solve for it's needs which must be

0:57.5

provisioned for care which must be delivered and a system that is selectively invested in and

1:05.8

selectively divested in such that that need compounds in an incredibly dangerous way. So it's not about

1:14.1

balance. It's about provisioning and it's about saying that person's need fucking matters.

1:20.0

And it's our job to make sure that everybody's needs are met and we're giving all people

1:26.6

care. It's not about balancing the good care out

1:30.2

among everyone else. It's about being realistic about what are our care needs and how do we best

1:36.2

meet them, right? Like this whole idea of like, oh, we can finally achieve like the perfect balance

1:43.4

in health finance by reducing costs and

1:46.8

making sure that we, you know, eliminate people from the face of the earth. And then, you know,

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