Teaser - Paid Shutdown Now w/ Abdullah Shihipar & Abby Cartus (03/08/21)

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🗓️ 9 March 2021

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Subscribe on Patreon and hear the full episode here: www.patreon.com/posts/48509714 (Teaser) It's not too late. It's still the best and only option. We make the case. First, we're joined by Abby Cartus for a discussion on why we need a paid shutdown. Then (1:19:00), Beatrice sits down with Abdullah Shihipar to talk about what a paid shutdown would mean, and why the pervasive claim that resisting lockdowns is "harm reduction" is a complete mischaracterization of the term. Runtime 2:05:41 DP EP 232, 8 March 2021 🧬

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0:00.0	The Death Panel presents a very special episode, the case for a paid shutdown in two parts.
0:07.0	I said something like this on Twitter a while ago, and I had like angry people in my mentions being like,
0:12.1	oh yeah, well, I guess you want to eliminate malaria and like tuberculosis too, huh?
0:16.8	And it's like, well, I mean, ideally.
0:19.2	Like, yes.
0:20.9	The CDC put out guidance on how to have a safe Super Bowl party.
0:25.3	Yes.
0:25.7	Like the Super Bowl is not, it's not a real holiday.
0:28.9	Like it's, it's, um, yeah.
0:32.0	And so like I've seen.
0:33.9	Honestly, I think like the class position of most people who are like scientists, researchers, and experts that are participating in this, right?
0:41.4	Like, because you see it, right?
0:43.4	Like, because, you know, they're, they're shifting the goalposts constantly and always in favor of them being able to do more, right?
0:52.0	Or them being able to declare that it's like safer to do more than it really is, right?
0:56.5	Like it's present in all these debates, these endless, I mean, it feels like, I feel like
1:03.3	one of the like Soviet scientists, like receiving deranged transmissions from the planet Solaris.
1:10.4	Like when people are like debating, you know, like whether it's okay, you know, like,
1:18.5	what can I do when I'm vaccinated?
1:20.3	And it's just like, wait, what?
1:23.0	Like, you know, it's all like the debate is being driven, I think, by, you know, experts who have a very specific class position.
1:31.8	I think in many instances they don't, you know, again, it's not on the MCAT.
1:35.2	So like, I don't know that if they realize that they have a class position that they're speaking from.
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