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Teaser - Forced Alternatives w/ Tracy Rosenthal (05/30/22)

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🗓️ 31 May 2022

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Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: www.patreon.com/posts/67101110 Beatrice speaks with Tracy Rosenthal about the policy frameworks that create and police houselessness and their recent piece in the New Republic, "Inside LA’s Homeless Industrial Complex." Tracy Rosenthal is a co-founder of the L.A. Tenants Union. Their first book, Abolish Rent, written with Leonardo Vilchis, is forthcoming from Verso. Follow them @two__evils Pre-orders are now live for Bea and Artie's book, Health Communism, out October 18th from Verso Books. Pre-order Health Communism here: bit.ly/3Af2YaJ Runtime 1:08:58, 30 May 2022 🧬

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0:06.4

You know, practically and legally, we have the imbrication of interim housing and policing.

0:14.9

And when we look at these things in concert, you know, that is what, that is homelessness policy. Homelessness policy is not

0:25.0

the, is not homeless services. It's the apparatus that contains both, you know, the so-called

0:31.6

services and police. I think, too, when we look at the outcome of that massive eviction, seven people are

0:41.3

dead, half are missing, some are shuffling through this system that has no end because there is

0:48.5

not enough permanent housing. When we look at that outcome, I think we have to sort of understand, you know, the purpose of a policy is the result of the policy. It's not the PR for the policy, right? So the result for unhoused people isn't housing. It's destabilization, it's banishment, its containment, and soft incarceration, and it's destabilization, it's banishment, it's containment, and soft incarceration, and it's slow and

1:15.8

quick death. And I was thinking I have this, I have a friend empty who lives outside, right? And they say,

1:22.2

like, the services aren't for, like the policies aren't for unhoused people. They're for housed people and politicians,

1:29.3

right? And so I think that's a really profound insight. Like, who does homelessness policy serve?

1:37.1

And that is also sort of what I was trying to answer in my piece that like if this, if the purpose of

1:43.1

the policy is the result of the policy

1:45.2

then like why like why would we do this to people who does it actually benefit um and that's also

1:52.9

like you know and that's sort of the other side of what i was writing about no absolutely and i think

1:57.7

that's such an important point i mean these these sort of frameworks that we've been talking about, right? Like when you hear people who are selling them to the public, right, they will call them safe, secure, managed environments. And I think that is one of the most sort of clear and euphemistic demonstrations of actually what they're supposed to do,

2:17.9

right? Which is that it's safe and secure, not for the people that are being managed in these

2:22.7

managed environments, but it projects the sort of perception of safety that like, you know,

2:28.1

white picket fence America prefers for the homeowners in the neighborhood who are having their space

2:33.2

visually cleared of the things that

2:34.8

they don't want to look at, which are not things, but actually people, right? And so much of the sort

2:40.0

of sweep language is about, oh, well, there's all this stuff here that we have to, it's a fire hazard.

2:44.5

This is an accessibility problem. This is like blocking walkways. This is a public health concern.

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