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It really comes down to the most basic, nasty capitalist urge to be like, okay, well, here's a problem that is impacting the people I pay to work my minds and make profit for me.

Let's just tell them it's not real. Let's just make it their

fault. Let's just say, oh, you smoke to me any cigarettes or your house is dirty or there's

a million other reasons why you can't breathe anymore and it's certainly not my fault. I'm I'm I'm

The Welcome to the Death Panel.

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it at your local library, and follow us at Deaf Panel underscore. So today I am here with my co-host,

Abby Cardis. Hello. And we are joined by our guest, Kim Kelly, who is an independent labor journalist,

and author of the book, Fight Like Hell, the Untold Story of American Labor,

to talk about a piece that she wrote that was recently published in In These Times about

black lung called The Young Miners Dying of an Old Man's Disease.

Kim, welcome to the death panel.

Thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm stoked to talk about, well, Stoke is a funny word for this,

but I'm glad to be able to talk about this really devastating public health crisis

and what I've learned about it in the past couple years. We get that a lot. I'm really here,

you know, I'm really excited to be here to talk about this horrible thing that keeps me up

tonight. Somewhere after this piece went live, someone emailed me to say that my work was horrible and important.

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