there is this whole conversation here about like how people report on the court.

And one of the things about that is people generally assume that by the time something gets to the Supreme Court, the facts are facts.

And we don't have to go back and think about them again.

That's not a norm that I was operating from.

The norm I'm operating from is ADAF is not an organization that plays strictly with the rules, let alone with the truth, potentially. Yeah. Welcome to the Deaf panel. Patrons, thank you so much for supporting our work. It's just the five of us, and we could not do any of this without you. If you'd like to support the show, become a patron at patreon.com slash Death PanelPod. And you can help us out a little bit more by sharing the show with your friends, posting about your favorite episodes, picking up a copy of health communism at your local bookstore,

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So today I am here with Friend of the Panel and returning guest, Melissa Jira Grant.

Melissa is a journalist, author, and filmmaker, and a staff writer at The New Republic.

She's the author of the book

Playing the Horror, The Work of Sex Work, and she is also currently working on her next

forthcoming book called A Woman is Against the Law, Sex, Race, and the Limits of Justice

in America. So we've asked Melissa back on the show today to talk about a really kind of wild

scoop that she reported on regarding

a recent case before the U.S. Supreme Court concerning a web designer who refuses to make

websites for gay weddings and was seeking an exemption to state anti-discrimination laws.

And as I mentioned, you know, Melissa's reporting broke a really fascinating part of this

whole lawsuit open that was previously not discussed and not really known. And Melissa first wrote

about it in June for the New Republic in a piece called The Mysterious Case of the Fake Gay Marriage

website, the Real Straight Man, and the Supreme Court. And this is also an

ongoing story with more reporting to come. So we're going to talk about that today. Melissa,

welcome back to the death panel. So great to have you on, as always. It's so good to be back.

And honestly, given everything we've discussed before, this at least has a veneer of humor to it.

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