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Death Panel

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🗓️ 18 June 2024

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/106371913 Beatrice, Artie and Abby discuss the recent resurgence of debates over social distancing guidance in 2020 and 2021 brought on by former NIH Director Anthony Fauci’s comment to Congress that six feet of social distancing “sort of just appeared” and “wasn’t based on data.” We talk through why these recent statements aren’t quite the gotcha they’ve been made out to be and how the arguments that have followed have omitted significant context around the debates over social distancing earlier in the pandemic, instead portraying covid protections as a mistake that came at “enormous cost.” Get Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Find Jules' new book here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny Runtime 1:07:13, 17 June 2024

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0:00.0

To hear the full episode, become a patron at patreon.com slash netpanel pod. Welcome to the Death Panel.

0:41.0

Patrons, as always, we deeply appreciate your generous support and couldn't do any of this without you.

0:45.9

And if you'd like to help us out a little bit more, share the show with your friends, post about your favorite episodes, hold listening and discussion groups, pick up copies of health communism

0:54.8

and a short history of trans misogyny at your local bookstore or request them at your local

0:59.4

library and follow us at Death Panel underscore. I'm Beecher Suther Bolton and today I'm joined by

1:05.4

my co-hosts, Artie Vierkant. Hello. And Abby Cardis. Hello. And the three of us are going to be checking in on

1:12.2

COVID. We're going to be talking about the recent resurgence of the social distancing debate.

1:17.7

The pandemic is still ongoing. People are still getting sick, getting long COVID, being

1:22.1

hospitalized, dying. Wastewater levels are up, particularly in the Western United States.

1:29.0

As we discussed in our episode called Economic Endemicity Blue, the wastewater surveillance system has some serious limitations

1:34.0

in terms of what it can tell us. The system is incomplete and there is inherent bias built

1:38.8

into the data that excludes people not hooked up to the grid, like with septic systems,

1:43.3

or places where there's no data at all,

1:45.1

like North Dakota, Mississippi, or Puerto Rico.

1:47.8

And as we'll be talking about in a moment, the three versus six feet debate is back.

1:52.4

Recent congressional testimony by former NIH director Anthony Fauci has reignited the discourse

1:57.7

around whether social distancing was quote-unquote worth the cost.

2:01.4

Now, this resurgence is only due in part to Fauci's testimony, in which he said that the

2:07.4

six-foot benchmark for U.S. social distancing recommendations, quote, sort of just appeared.

2:12.7

But I think the credit for re-centering this in the public debate is also due in no small part to reporting on Fauci's comment,

2:20.9

specifically reporting that was published in the Washington Post on June 2nd, written by Dan Diamond,

2:26.2

that essentially portrayed this comment on the social distancing recommendations as novel and new information, and also portrayed the

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