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When you are a photographer, whether you're working commercially or in the world of fine art,

there is a certain amount of self-promotion that's involved.

And though some people find it difficult to sell themselves,

the reality often is that until you're able to do it for yourself, there will likely be

little interest in someone else doing it for you. Though some believe the work should stand for

itself, such moments don't often happen spontaneously or in a vacuum.

Bob Fisher has been an artist for over 50 years, and by some people's definition,

he has been described as a shameless self-promoter.

That side of him can be seen in the 1999 documentary film Original Ste Stick, which tells the story of his three-month

collaboration with several Australian artists and galleries, which didn't turn out as many

people expected. The film is a fascinating exploration of issues of fame, business in the fine art

world, and what one person can create through

sheer force of will and maybe some questionable ethics.

Bob Fisher's latest book is Vignettes, a collection of a street photography which explores

another side of his artistic process.

And the conversation provides some fascinating observations of what drives someone to create art

and hopefully leave behind a legacy.

So, Bob, let's start off with, you know, you have been an artist for a while now and i think photography may have come a

little later right tell tell us a little bit about when you started picking up photography and

then we can go back into your your history as an artist okay because well it's all related to

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