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Young Heretics

Taylor Swift and Ben Shapiro in Thessalonike

Young Heretics

Spencer Klavan

Society & Culture, Education

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Today I'm tackling (no pun intended) a very important philosophical question of our age: why does anyone care what Taylor Swift thinks? No, seriously--that's a real question. It's basically the one that Plato deals with in his Ion. Trying to answer it can lead us to some pretty fascinating insights about the nature of celebrity and even reality itself. Who would have thought the Biden Administration's efforts at courting celebrity would take us into 9th-century Thessalonikē and the Eastern Church's battle over icons? But here we are. Only on Young Heretics, folks.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

As many of you know, I like to begin these shows from time to time with a reading from some great work of Western literature, a poem, or an essay, or maybe a novel.

0:14.8

And so this week, I'm just gonna start us off

0:17.4

with a passage from one of our most profound poets.

0:30.1

Let's look at the stats. I've got the facts. My money like Lizzo. My pockets are fat.

0:37.5

Homie, I'm epic, don't be a whap. Dog, it's a yamica.

0:40.2

Homie, no cap. No cap fan fan. Okay if you're a daily wire fan you might recognize those lyrics

1:00.6

that's from the I believe number one rap song or song of any

1:06.1

kind in the country or it was for some time featuring Ben Shapiro it's called

1:12.2

facts and it is by featuring Ben Shapiro. It's called Facts.

1:13.4

And it is by the Anti-Woke rapper, Tom McDonald,

1:18.4

I guess you could call him.

1:20.2

Just recently rocketed to the top of the charts and you guys know this is not a current

1:27.6

events show I'm not just covering the latest thing or trend or sensation that happened.

1:34.6

But one thing I do like to do is I like to make sure

1:38.0

I'm trying to show you guys how these kind of abstract ideas

1:42.4

that you find in great works of literature and the

1:44.8

larger history of the West can play out and affect the world that we actually live in.

1:51.6

The real world, the one that we live in, is the world where these big ideas matter and have consequence if they matter at all.

1:59.0

And one of my governing themes throughout the show has always been that the things which happen in the day

2:04.8

to day new cycle which look like momentary passing events or unprecedented

2:09.5

developments or up to the minute news items are actually bubbles on the surface of a deeper ocean

2:18.0

that there are currents moving that have been moving for hundreds and hundreds of years

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