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Good afternoon and welcome to software radio. I'm software editor in chief Sean Spence. I'm

feeling in for Steve Ballastray today who is recovering from minor surgery. He's going to be just fine. Don't worry about him. Today, our guest is Taylor Greggam and Taylor is a former

aviation rescue source and he's made a documentary called Hell or Highwater, which is about his post military service journey from PSD to recovering and healing. It's it's a really fascinating story, much like Homer's

epic poem, the Odyssey, about the king of Ithaca. He was the king of Ithaca and he made a journey that took, I think, about a year coming back from the siege of Troy. And the journey that Eric and his, I'm sorry, Taylor and his shipmates made, took him from Pensacola, Florida, all the way to Cape Horn in the southern tip.

South America, one of the most treacherous places for Mariners in the entire world. It's the reason they built the Panama Canal was because so many people and ships were lost trying to sail Cape Horn. I'm particularly happy to be doing this interview today with Taylor because I was an aviation rescue air crew in myself. So to meet another one, to talk to another one is such a rare thing. There's so few of us in the Navy. You almost never see another one.

So Taylor, welcome to software period. We're very happy to have you. Thanks, man. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool indeed. It is rare. Small city. Right. We're like unicorns. It's like you're going to go. You are so our swimmer. No kidding. And I guess I think we talked when we were talking before. So I've only ever met one other guy in like 25 years. It was a rescue swimmer like like you and I were. It was like a. Oh my God. And kind of funny thing. I asked him. He was with an HSC.

A C squadron like you were, which is a C control squadron. For those of you who are uninitiated, the C control squadrons are the almost the dedicated combat search from his squadrons in the Navy and that it's differentiated from the HSCL squadrons, which tend to do more any summary warfare off of frigates and and destroyers.

And when I told him I was in HSCL, he goes, Oh, you must have got good grades in a school.

It was just kind of true because if you were like, didn't get good grades in history, you ended up with the H3 squadron, you know, the HSCL squadrons and stuff.

So you had to pick your orders based on your question. And if you don't know this, our publisher, Brandon Webb, who is a Navy SEAL, he started as a aviation rescue swimmer as well.

He was an HSCL squadron. He was on the Kitty Hawk and he was on the Able Lincoln and then went over to the Navy SEALs.

It used to be that the number one rating for guys to transition on the SEAL teams was such a risky guys that they always are looking for some other thing.

So let's talk a bit about your background. You grew up in East Texas, Galveston Bay area, moved around a little bit.

It's a little bit about that. You were born away and how old are you now?

Yeah, I'm 29.

So my grandparents had a place in Galveston. We'd go stay with them. My dad, he lived in Dickinson, which is where I live now.

And then we lived in Huntsville and then a little town called Malacov out in East Texas and then family had some land out in St. Angelo.

We got to and now most of my family lives out in San Antonio.

And that's where I lived when I got out of the Navy. It was in San Antonio for a month.

I've been out that way, beautiful town. I spent a little time on a ranch out in Bandera, which is, you know, out even further west of you in that part of the country.

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