Stream the new Paramount Plus original series 1923 a Yellowstone origin story starring Helen Mirren in Harrison Ford

1923 a new series streaming now exclusively on Paramount Plus go to Paramount Plus comm to try it for free

Welcome to Switched on Pop I'm songwriter Charlie Harding and I'm musicologist Nate Sloan and we're incredibly happy to be joined by Brittany Loose who is a writer and editor and also the co-host of the acclaimed podcast for Color Nords welcome Brittany

Thank you so much for having me I'm so happy to be here and it's for a really fun episode because well sad episode I don't know

I don't know I should I frame it you know this fall there has been a confluence of mega breakup records from Casey Musgrave

Lana Del Rey summer Walker Dell Mitske I'd even throw Bruno Mars and Anderson pox supergroup silksonic into the mix and of course Taylor Swift

has stormed the press with her re-recording of her hit album Red and the 10 minute version of the fan favorite song all too well

We are again in the middle of the night with dance around the kitchen in the refrigerator while downstairs I was there

Folks have been calling this confluence of releases sad girl autumn Brittany could you help out my internet a literate colleague over here and help us explain this me please

Sure sure so sad girl autumn is like a play on the phrase popularized by Megan the stallion hot girl summer I think that obviously

sad girl autumn is kind of encapsulating this like fresh round of break up records and heartbreak records that have been released by so many major artists this fall but I think you're also like on a more emotional real world level kind of speaks to the disappointment of an unfulfilled hot girl summer I think that like this past summer 2021 is what many people at least in the United States thought of as you know a great reopening right and I think for a variety of reasons that just

didn't pan out for everybody the way that they hoped and so I think that it's kind of interesting that there's like this musical like sad girl autumn that is kind of hitting upon like a real sad girl autumn that I think a lot of us are feeling

a real life I wish I had like a happier explanation for it but I think that's just the truth that's what I'm saying I love this topic because the music is great but you have a subject is super real

doctor guy when the author of how to fix a broken heart put it especially well in his widely viewed Ted talk heartbreak creates such dramatic emotional pain our mind tells us the cause must be equally dramatic and that got

instant is so powerful it can make even the most reasonable and measured of us come up with mysteries and conspiracy theories when none exist and he has a European accent so I automatically assume what he's saying is accurate

it's giving for right for real though doctor which explains that heartbreak registers as actual physical pain and can even mimic withdrawal symptoms it sucks

but he does offer a way out in his writing he says it's especially important not to ruminate idealize past lovers if you want to fix a broken heart the proven methods are one to distract yourself to

to frame the past relationship like see it for when it really was and three the most effective is negative reappraisal like just reframe your past lover in a negative way actually helps and what I want to do together is maybe create our own very non medical totally subjective

diagnoses of these works not the singers but the songs to think about how are they expressing heartbreak and are they actually helping us move on

I am so down I love this okay so let's begin with Taylor Swift's all too well it's the re recording of her album red right she's trying to regain all of the master rights to all of her recordings which were sold without her permission

to her second re recorded album it's the crossover record that I think is what made me fall in love with Taylor and the song all too well has created immense buzz because she has put out this 10 minute version of the song

I don't know about you all but I'm hearing a lot of both rumination but also negative reappraisal I'm curious for you Brittany how does this song register heartbreak for you I am not the most knowledgeable Taylor Swift listener but I had actually never heard this song before this week to prepare for this episode and it was interesting

...