Welcome back to Psychedelics today, everybody. I am Joe Moore. Today we talk to Tarif Ahmed.

He is a gentleman. I met when I was coordinating events in Boston. He was a student at, I believe, Boston University

at the time and was coming to the psychedelic events that were going on there under the guise

of reality sandwich and Evolver. It was really fun. It was great to meet him because he brought

a lot of younger folks to my events. And it was great to meet them, great to meet him,

and interact with young people

who are really struggling with, you know, what are these things? How do we use them safely,

constructively, or for fun and, you know, with minimal harm? So it was really, really great to reconnect

with him just a couple weeks back. I was in Long Island and he took the drive from

New York City Zone out to where I was. So it was really cool. In the middle of a snowstorm,

almost in the middle of a snowstorm was right the day before some massive snowstorm out there

in Long Island. So it was really great to hang out with him, have dinner with him, record, reconnect, and chat with him about his experience in psychedelics because he, his family

origin is Bangladesh, which is right outside India. He has Islamic origin. So his family is, he grew up

in Islam. He is or was Islamic. Very interesting to hear his perspectives on that.

We kind of go all over the place, too, talking about, you know, taking a data approach,

an open source research approach, kind of peer-to-peer research approach for psychedelics,

for people to be able to do their own research. Right now, there is some article I saw today.

I guess we posted on our Instagram about psilocybin costing $7,000 a gram, which is interesting.

No one's buying straight psilocybin for the most part on the street.

I know some people who used to put it in their nose.

That was a little weird.

I think they made it themselves either through synthesis or

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