Hi, this is Monica Packer. What you're about to hear is a session from my five-day online event going on right now,

The More for Mom's Conference. This event is for the mom who is ready for more in her happiness,

habits, health, home, and hobbies. Audio versions of each speaker session will only be available

on the public about progress feed through Sunday, October 12th. For ad-free video and

audio versions of all content, be sure to sign up for the basic or all-access pass before the

conference ends on October 12th. You can do so at aboutprogress.com slash more for moms. Now

on to our special session.

Thank you. on to our special session. Fadmit Setti, welcome to the More for Mom's Conference.

It's such a joy to have you.

I'm really, really happy to be here with you.

We're going to be talking about joy, speaking of which.

I didn't even mean to do that.

But hey, we have to tie that in where we can.

We're going to be talking about joy in the midst of hardship, of busyness, of stress, of anxiety, of all the hard that life brings to us.

And you've been so open about your own life story, both in your book

and in your work, about the trauma and the tragedy, really, that you have experienced time

and time again, including as a matter. And we'll talk a little bit about that today, but I did

want to begin with, even with that and knowing that, how do you know that joy is for all of us, especially as mothers?

Yeah, I love this question.

I think that what I know for sure after 27 years of caring for patients in all kinds of crisis and suffering is that none of us,

none of us, no matter what your situation is, move forward without a sense of hope and capacity

that we can thrive. And we often, what I think I've learned in 27 years is that we often put the joy as the

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