this is the labor. All right, this is Dave Meltzer live at collision. This may be

year number seven or eight ever since we've been in New Orleans and we have

hijacked the next stage podcast to do a little entrepreneur is the playbook

edition of the next stage podcast and I got two extraordinary Vancouverans. Is

all you call you guys? Vancouverans? Vancouver right. Vancouver right. It's so

right. We have nothing to do with the Vancouverians. Yeah, very good. Vancouver's

right. Tennis George is here with me and Joe Tolzman. Is this your first

collision? Yes. Oh, that's literally walked in the door 30 minutes ago. As a

serial entrepreneur. I know. Have you heard of it before? Oh yeah, I had heard of

it, but just too much head down. Yeah, being an entrepreneur. Yeah. How about you, Joe?

You're a serial entrepreneur. Yeah, the series and serial. Serial. I'm just a

serial. For the first time in the collision, but it's so awesome to be here. It's

35,000,000 people. Such a great energy. Yeah, there's a lot of it's a community

of people that want to help each other and know people who can help each other and

yet you have to navigate so much as we do as entrepreneurs. And I want to start

with probably the most pressing issue that I've learned over the last 35

years as an entrepreneur and its capitalization of companies. And one of the

things I see a collision, a web summit, rise, they even had it in Brazil. Now that

the economy's turning a little bit more challenging is that people once again

are realizing it's really difficult to raise money. And yet raising money and

making money are the two common denominators to success. And I'm going to start

with you, Tony, as well. I'm starting a fund. And I think it's the first, it's

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