4.6 • 15.2K Ratings
🗓️ 14 August 2023
⏱️ 53 minutes
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If outward accomplishment is coupled with great internal distress, is that really success? It’s a question Tan France had to ask himself when his business was doing brilliantly, but his mental health wasn’t.
In this chat, Fearne and Tan swap thoughts about the realities of having a new born baby, and why it’s so important to establish what marriage means to you before you get married. They also chat about the power of using clothes to express creativity and identity.
You can watch Tan on all-new Say Yes To The Dress UK on Really from the 16th of August, and can catch up on Discovery+.
This interview took place prior to the 2023 SAG-AFTRA strike.
CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains frank conversation about suicidal ideation, so do take care while listening.
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0:00.0 | Before we start, this episode includes some conversations that might be difficult to hear, |
0:06.2 | so do read the show notes if you'd like more details. |
0:11.4 | Hello, I'm Fern Cotton and this is Happy Place, the show that helps us better understand |
0:17.6 | experiences that aren't our own. Today, I'm meeting Tan France. |
0:22.5 | The idea of success and what that means to us, especially in the West, |
0:28.5 | we just think, well, I can't give all this up because this is what we all work towards. |
0:32.6 | We all work to money and freedom, and then when I got out of it all, I realized, |
0:38.8 | gosh, that wasn't success. Yes, I could pay my bills and I had money, but it wasn't that |
0:45.5 | wasn't the thing that was going to make me feel successful. Success was being able to sleep at night, |
0:50.8 | not thinking, I've got to do this, this, this, this, this, this, this is a problem, that's a problem, |
0:54.3 | the how do I solve this? Just being able to go to sleep at night and actually being able to sleep. |
0:58.1 | Tan burst onto our screens as one fifth of the Fab Five on Netflix Queer Eye in 2018. |
1:06.3 | He captured all of our hearts as he showed what a transformative effect |
1:11.2 | clothes can have on our confidence and sense of self. |
1:15.7 | Now he's sharing his gorgeous warmth and wardrobe advice with brides to be on a new |
1:21.9 | revamped series of say yes to the dress UK. Before his TV work, Tan had been |
1:28.0 | a successful fashion designer behind the scenes, but his life hasn't all been glitz and glamour. |
1:34.3 | In fact, in his bestselling memoir, Naturally Tan, he talked about how it was often the pressures |
1:40.7 | of outward success that led to some of his darkest moments. I was really taken with Tan's honesty |
1:49.2 | in this chat. He was so willing to share some really profound experiences and was also hilariously |
1:56.0 | candid about some of his opinions too. He was absolutely the compassionate soul that we see on TV, |
2:02.4 | so I really hope you enjoy getting to know him even better. |
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