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The rise in anti-Asian hate incidents over the past year, it's prompted this call for

Americans to talk about racism and discrimination with their friends and parents and their

kids. And these are conversations made even more difficult and, frankly, more urgent after shootings

earlier this month in Atlanta.

Now, if you're looking for ways into those conversations, our next two guests may be able

to help.

Nicole Chung is an author and advice columnist for Slate.

Christine Coe is a neuroscientist and co-authored a book on parenting.

And we spoke with them for

NPR's All Things Considered. We wanted to share our conversation with Life Kids listeners,

so here it is.

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Nicole, I was hoping to start with you because you write an advice column at Slate.

What are two tips you would give to parents who want to start with you because you write an advice column at Slate. What are two tips you would give

to parents who want to start a dialogue around these issues, racism or discrimination or inclusivity?

One thing I do is like hearken back to past conversations. Like I'm always saying, remember

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