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Hey everybody, this is Jeff.

In this episode, Rebecca Shinskyinsky Vanessa Diaz and I talk about the mess that is American dirt especially after Oprah selected it for her book club right after we finished recording,

Flatine released a statement apologizing

for some of the promotional efforts,

for some of the things that they did in the rollout of the book.

They also announced that they were cancelling the book to

where Jenny Cummins was going to go on, citing safety concerns. There's a lot to unpack there.

We didn't get to it because we didn't know it exists.

Rebecca now will probably get to it

in the next edition of the regular news show.

But just wanted to say that, yep, we did see it.

I also didn't say there are links in the show notes

to several interesting pieces pieces including Daniel Hernandez's

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