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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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4.8 • 11.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Rachel and Van start the show by talking about podcasters like Joe Rogan and his possible intentions with those he interviews. Then, they discuss Governor Josh Shapiro’s opinions on Kamala Harris’s book and react to both the new four-part Netflix documentary on Diddy and the response to it from Diddy’s team. Rachel also gives an apology rating to BD Wong. Later, they are joined by Governor Wes Moore to talk about reparations, child poverty, and direct conversations with Trump. 00:00 - Welcome! 04:15 - Joe Rogan and intentions 09:57 - Governor Shapiro comments on Kamala Harris 17:43 - Netflix releases a four-part Diddy documentary 28:24- Pharrell addresses recent political comments 48:39 - BD Wong apologizes for racist joke 58:06- Governor Wes Moore joins us 2:00:57 - Thanks for watching! Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Governor Wes Moore Producers: Ashleigh Smith and Donnie Beacham Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.
0:09.3	What is up?
0:10.1	Harlan is on and Zy Van Lacey.
0:12.1	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:13.8	Governor Westmore on the podcast today.
0:15.4	Yeah.
0:16.3	Pretty wide-ranging interview.
0:17.6	It was good.
0:18.5	It was a great interview, and I'm excited for the audience to get to.
0:23.3	I'm wearing sunglasses, guys. I had I had little eye surgery.
0:28.1	Well, I work. So you got the, so I guess my question is, could you have worn like regular sunglasses or do you have to wear those specific sunglasses that they give you?
0:37.8	So I probably could have worn regular, but I don't want an indention.
0:43.4	Like all my sunglasses have the little things right here on the nose.
0:46.9	So I like these because I feel like they're not going to be as much of an indention.
0:51.7	When you go to your family reunion, it's always one of your aunts that has these. For sure. Like you want some black eyepid, baby? I kind of like them. I think it's a vibe. I think it's kind of cool. Yeah. You know, like kind of give you the whole Oakley's and the 90s type of swag. You could, you fucking with it though.
1:11.4	Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I can make this work.
1:13.0	More guys have been reaching out about you.
1:15.8	Is this, I don't know if I, did I change something?
1:18.4	What's up?
1:18.8	No, no, they've been reaching out.
1:20.4	What do you tell them?
1:21.3	I told you about this earlier.
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