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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

L.A. Hip-Hop Culture With Nana, and Sydney Sweeney Speaks

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.811.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel welcome rapper Nana to talk hip-hop culture in Los Angeles before they react to Sydney Sweeney’s comments on her infamous jean ad campaign. Then a boxing-style scoring of the best back-and-forths between Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman. (0:00) Intro (11:41) Jason Derulo on working with women (23:15) Nana joins the show (53:04) Sydney Sweeney on the “great jeans” ad (1:01:33) Stephen A. Smith vs. Max Kellerman Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? How Learning is on his eye, Ray Latham, Jr.

0:12.5

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. I have a question before we start. This was a question

0:18.2

that was asked, and I wanted to know what you thought. Who's more famous?

0:22.7

I said I have two questions.

0:24.4

I'm going to start with the first one.

0:25.3

Who's more famous?

0:27.0

Michael Jackson or Mickey Mouse.

0:28.1

Ooh.

0:32.5

This was the topic of discussion at a party that I was at on Saturday.

0:36.7

I missed that conversation.

0:38.2

Yeah, it was late until the night.

0:39.8

Okay.

0:40.4

Well, this is really hard.

0:44.2

Who's more famous?

0:45.2

Michael came first.

0:46.3

I mean, I mean, sorry, Mickey came first.

0:48.4

So technically, Mickey's been famous longer.

0:54.1

Like, because the fame is equal, right?

0:56.1

Like, they're so equally known, obviously for different reasons,

1:00.3

in their own right.

1:01.7

But I'm gonna say Mickey because Mickey's been around longer,

1:09.6

because of Disney itself,

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