Do you have a favorite? Not meant to, but mostly the unloved ones, the unvisited ones, the cases that get dusty and ignored.

All the broken and shunned creatures.

Someone's got to care for them.

Who shall it be if not us?

Yes. Welcome to Roon soup, a weekly podcast about magic, culture and the very best new and old ideas for living in this world, coming to you from 43 degrees south on a small farm in deepest Tasmania.

My name is Gordon and I shall be your host.

This week we have another swapcast for you and it is with the

heart is a cauldron hosted by coach and magical practitioner Catherine Fink. And it's a bit of a

bumper episode as swap casts tend to be, but not just because of that, also because the topic is one of intense and in many ways urgent interest, which is mythic time and the metaphysics of time in general.

There's also some cool stuff in there about breaking time,

how time tries to break you, maybe in Soviet Russia, maybe not,

journeying logic and a return to right relation and because

this is a swapcast, it's also a video conversation if you want to hop on over to

the blog or the YouTube page to watch instead. Enjoy.

Catherine, welcome aboard.

Hello.

All right.

Now the swapcast.

We're thinking about it before we hit record. Maybe I'm just going to do swap

cast with people who were at the metaphysics of Desire workshop in New York because

it seems to be how it goes.

Yeah, that was a pretty amazing workshop.

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