Well, I wonder if you like, I do think people are drawn to monsters, partly because they might have had like, you know, like a tough kind of experience in their life and then the monster represents like the fears and the struggles.

But then also like a lot of my students identify with the monsters.

They're like I'm an outsider just like, you know, Frankenstein's monsters.

Oh, that's true. Sure. Well, I definitely felt a kind of, I was definitely drawn to

monsters that were a person turned into something.

That was almost more interesting to me than just it was like the wolf man or

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde was kind of more interesting to me, a person who becomes something else.

But for sure, I mean, I, yeah, and then it was all those universal monster things I started

getting into that and then it was, you know, kids are interested in dinosaurs, so

Godzilla made sense and I was interested

in guerrillas which are kind of monstrous in a way and so king kong and all that kind of

stuff but I definitely wanted to be the monster a lot of the time. Why I identified with it, I don't

know, that's strange, but I can remember literally wrapping myself had to tell

in toilet paper a couple of times.

Is the mummy? Yeah. That's the mummy.

Yeah, it's the mummy and just doing all kind of like

thing around the house.

But you play guys that are like kind of monstrous within with a veneer of civilization like wrapped around.

What do you say?

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