Talking AI with Data and Society’s Janet Haven
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🗓️ 5 October 2023
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Today, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem. And we’re discussing the hot topic of the moment: artificial intelligence. There are a lot of less-than-informed takes out there about AI and whether it’s going to kill us all—so we’re glad to be able to share an interview that hopefully cuts through some of that noise.
Janet Haven is the Executive Director of the nonprofit Data and Society and a member of the National Artificial Intelligence Advisory Committee, which provides guidance to the White House on AI issues. Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic sat down alongside Matt Perault, Director of the Center on Technology and Policy at UNC-Chapel Hill, to talk through their questions about AI governance with Janet. They discussed how she evaluates the dangers and promises of artificial intelligence, how to weigh the different concerns posed by possible future existential risk to society posed by AI versus the immediate potential downsides of AI in our everyday lives, and what kind of regulation she’d like to see in this space.
If you’re interested in reading further, Janet mentions this paper from Data and Society on “Democratizing AI” in the course of the conversation.
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| 1:55.4 | is the Law Fair podcast, October 5th, 2023. Today we're bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, |
| 2:03.8 | our series on the information ecosystem. And we're discussing the hot topic of the moment, |
| 2:09.7 | artificial intelligence. There are a lot of less than informed takes out there about AI and |
| 2:16.2 | whether it's going to kill us all. So I'm glad to be able to share an interview that hopefully |
| 2:20.7 | cuts through some of that noise. Janet Haven is the executive director of the non-profit data and |
| 2:27.1 | society and a member of the National Artificial Intelligence Advisory Committee, which provides |
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