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So we sat down with Dave Maza

to talk about direction, to talk about their products their future and this is

definitely one of the more interesting fun families out there would you agree?

Yeah I thought this was probably one of the bigger

myth-busting podcasts that we've had because I think after talking to Dave there I changed my mind

on a lot of the ways that I look at these products I think.

Well I think especially because whenever you read about their products it is always in a negative light

and I understand why and listen I was steamrolled I all admit I lost some money trading these things

What was your triple inverse bearish financials or something so I started trading these things in 2010 and I was buying the triple levered bear

financials. The only problem is the bear market already ended and nobody told me.

You're a little late. But Dave was very upfront and

honest about the way that these should be used and how they're tactical

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