Talk Heathen 08.15 with Dr. Ben and Richard Gilliver
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
4.7 • 611 Ratings
🗓️ 14 April 2024
⏱️ 99 minutes
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Summary
00:00 Intro
44:33 James | Biblical Miracles And Magic Tricks
1:06:27 Jeff-KY | All Morality Comes From The Bible
1:19:38 Christian-FL | Struggling To Find Meaning To Life
1:43:35 Joseph-NC | Religion Causing Problems At Work
SHOW NOTES
Welcome to Talk Heathen! This week we have Dr. Ben and Richard Gilliver taking your quandaries and queries of all things religion/atheism. Who knows what kind of woo they will encounter today.
We received a voicemail this week that sparked a great conversation between Dr. Ben and Richard. The voicemail had a number of assertions, mainly they look around and see evil, near death experiences, etc. NDE’s are a great topic when we have Dr. Ben hosting! (In Miracle Max’s voice) There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead, mostly dead is slightly alive.
James wants advice on responding to the various miracle claims. An example of a miracle claim James has encountered is a historical figure being murdered then coming back to life only to point out their killer. Keep the burden on the person making the claim and avoid making any claims you can’t prove. Try getting more specific details about their supposed murder, not just accounts from others. Also, point out that miracles are defined as can only be explained by a higher power.
Littlewood's law shows that events with one in a million odds happen, per person, about once a month.
Jeff from Kentucky asserts that all morality comes from the bible. He goes on to say the bible proves God’s morality, even slavery. Slavery is and always has been immoral, despite claims it was done by everyone back then. The don’t murder commandment is at odds with christian history. Biblical justice is not moral at all as it condones killing, stoning, etc. Yikes Jeff, advocating for genocide is a very bad look. Hopefully you are just a troll.
Christian in Florida is curious how non-believers can attribute meaning to life or find intrinsic right and wrong. Death and suffering are part of the natural world. We have a subjective morality based on objective facts like death and suffering. A moral system should be a work in progress and grows as we learn over time. Atheists tend to find their own meaning in life, like career goals, family, or just living and experiencing life.
Joseph in North Carolina struggles to get a diverse workforce on the same page, sometimes due to religious beliefs. Try to remind them they need to adhere to professional standards and set beliefs aside. Advise them to avoid talking or joking about religion at work,
Thank you for tuning in for another exciting episode of Talk Heathen! The Question of the week is: What is the sin that made God flood the entire Earth? Post your answer in the comments and the top 5 get read live on the next show!
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I've been thinking about what to write for today's opening, and I've been watching a lot of |
| 0:04.9 | Christian content to try and find ideas that I want to address, but I've come stuck. The reason |
| 0:10.1 | why I've come stuck is it's the same utter nonsense every time, whether it's the alleged top-tier |
| 0:15.9 | apologists like Cliff Neckler, who, by the way, someone suggested, if you think he's that bad, |
| 0:21.2 | why don't you debate him? To which I responded, if you'll lay the funding down, I will. Never heard a response. |
| 0:26.8 | To the first time TikTok apologists, to the appalling excuse makers who preach and run in our |
| 0:32.5 | video comments section, all I hear is nonsense. I can't even bring myself to call them arguments, |
| 0:39.2 | because much of the time, they're just statements with nothing to back them up. Have Christians |
| 0:44.2 | run out of arguments? Is it so overwhelmingly obvious, even to the converted, that there is no |
| 0:51.0 | evidence of God's existence? The apologetics has turned into preaching at people |
| 0:56.4 | rather than having conversations with them, because, you know, we don't want to be humiliated |
| 1:01.4 | in public now, do we? Do you disagree? Do you think there are compelling arguments and evidence |
| 1:06.2 | of God's existence? And are you willing to put your money where your mouth is? Or are you going to be like |
| 1:11.9 | the many? Jeffrey? Who claimed that his sole motivation was to reach as many non-Christians as |
| 1:17.4 | possible? Then said he wouldn't call a show with thousands of views in favour of commenting on a clip |
| 1:22.6 | with less than a thousand. Or Ronald, who claims that he has scientific evidence for God and has been repeatedly invited |
| 1:30.5 | to call for the last five months. Always finds an excuse. Got family over this week. |
| 1:36.0 | Oh, I thought it started at a different time this week. You, Christians, the gobby ones that |
| 1:42.4 | talk a good game. Call us, represent or step aside. I don't care if you converted last week, or you consider yourself the world's greatest apologist. Dr Ben and I are waiting for you to step up and soon, so give us a call because the show is about to begin. |
| 2:11.8 | Welcome, everybody. It is April 14th, 2020. |
| 2:17.3 | I'm your host, Dr. Ben, and with me, we have my favorite Richard Julliver. How are you doing today, Richard? |
| 2:19.2 | I am literally the only Richard Joliver he knows. |
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