Tucker Carlson did an interesting interview with Steve Bannon talking about demonic reality.

He says, I'm not a Christian. I consider myself kind of, but he said he doesn't have a high respect

for pastors, he said. He had a dream he was attacked and wakes up with bloody sheets and literal

scratch marks on his side. That guy has been used by God in a remarkable way. I mean, Russell Brand, boom, used by God.

And I think that we could say that there's a sense in which the Lord raised up with Elon Musk, with RFK Jr., even with Joe Rogan at the last minute.

There was, in a sense, a re-contextualizing of who Trump was away from the manipulation of legacy media.

There's a crack now in the wall of the deception.

Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox.

This is another day with Anna Marie Cox where we talk to smart people about what they're thinking about

this somewhat precedented time, actually. And today's smart person is Talia Lavin. She's the author

of the book Wild Faith, how the Christian right is taking over America. And she has a new lesbian.

Do you like it? Talia Lavin, she is the author of the book Wild Faith, how the Christian right is taking over America.

And she has a newsletter called The Sword and the Sandwich, which is actually kind of about exactly

what it sounds like.

But we're going to be talking to her about her expertise on the Christian right, Nazis,

people who are trying to pull the strings of American politics through a Christian,

Christian lens, and not sandwiches.

Talia, thanks for being on the show.

Yeah, thank you so much for having me.

I really appreciate it.

So, yes, exactly this.

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