Hey everyone, I'm Amidale Yuckbert, and this is See Something Say Something.

This week, we're talking about data.

I mean, honestly, I still feel ambivalent about even calling myself a Muslim because the ways that I move through the world

are completely different as a non-Hijabi,

as a woman who shows a lot of pleasure

at every single opportunity.

So I don't want to speak on behalf of any other groups

and data allows me to do that in a slightly different way.

If you see something, you better, you better say do that in a slightly different way.

This week, this week we're talking to a data journalist, and I'm somebody who doesn't like data very much.

I think it's been very destructive for our communities.

It's always been the domain of white men.

It feels like been used against communities of color in really destructive ways.

But my guess this week uses data to sort of normalize the things we're uncomfortable with and ask and answer uncomfortable questions.

I count one count.

Greetings.

What is your name?

My name's Mona Chalaby.

Mona.

Wonderful to meet you.

Joining me this week is Mona Chalaby.

She's a Guardian data journalist illustrator and friend of Count von Count.

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