Hello, this is the Webbox Podcast. I'm Matt Jorley back from the College Green in Westminster.

Terrible hay fever for all the pollen coming off the plain trees that we were sat under.

But anyway, I was going to say it was a lot of fun.

I'm excited to be pressing really going through this great report live on air.

But anyway, we've done it now. I hope you enjoyed listening to it on yesterday's episode.

Coming up today, we'll park all of that for a moment.

Some new immigration figures out today shows net migration is up.

More people are coming to the UK, but is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Given all the promises made about cutting immigration, it would seem to be a broken promise.

But we're going to hear from people from different sides of the argument.

Nick Timothy, former chief of staff to Theresa May, who promised to cut net migration.

Never quite managed it.

And James Kirkup, former journalist now at the Social Market Foundation, who thinks that all of this is quite a good thing.

That's coming up in our big thing in just a moment.

First, though, as ever, we kick off with our economy's panel.

And on a Thursday, it's night at the Marriott. It's India night and James Marriott.

So, India, how are you feeling this morning?

The morning after the night before, are you ready to move on?

It's a difficult thing, isn't it?

Because I understand people who say they're ready to move on.

Because it's very boring and it's been dragging on for months.

But on the other hand, it's also very important and very awful.

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